An Interesting Statistic

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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by byork » June 30th, 2009, 3:35 pm

Mark had his ICD implanted on 7/07/07. He has not been shocked, but he is paced over 90% of the time. I am eternally grateful for the ability to let him out of my sight with the ICD.
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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by dplumb » June 30th, 2009, 5:05 pm

Had icd implanted sept 2007 no shock yet (knock on wood)


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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by smc0827 » June 30th, 2009, 5:25 pm

Hello! On ICD #2 this month - had 1st ICD for 4 yrs. One storm of 5 shocks Apr. '08. Technically inappropriate - due to atrial tachycardia w/fast ventricular response. Hoping ICD #2 is better at differentiating between atrial/ventricular issues. :)
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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by don » June 30th, 2009, 5:48 pm

I've had over two dozen shocks (I quit counting at 25), but none in several years. I think that's because we finally got my medications balanced for my body and my condition. I'm sure Murphy's Law is still in effect and I'll have some more eventually.

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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by tomrostron » June 30th, 2009, 6:13 pm

icd implant oct 2002, 2 shocks in same month 2006. joe

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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by CarlB » June 30th, 2009, 6:14 pm

Well, implanted December 2005 with no shocks. I'm with you ~guin don't rock the boat.
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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by Ozchrissy » June 30th, 2009, 7:47 pm

Gary, I think the statistics would be true, people have the ICD's inserted for many different reasons. Mine was not inserted because I had a 'rythm' problem but because of heart damage from cardiomyopathy, left bundle branch block and suspected VT. It has only been in recent years that they have begun inserting the Biventriular Pacers for heart failure patients and I think that the ICD is often a precautionary measure, as the percentage of people with heart failure dying of cardiac arrest is very high. That is not to say that everyone will experience a shock, but it is there as a precaution. I was 2 years shock free before I was shocked, and as Guin and others have said, others are shock free for years, Yippee, but it is there as a precaution because they have a serious heart muscle disease that can lead to cardiac arrest.

It is fantastic that the medical profession is now looking at prevention instead of waiting until it is too late, hence the low statistics for shocks which I find very reassuring.
“I am not what happened to me, I am what I choose to become.” Carl Jung

Diagnosed with cardiomyopathy in 10/99
LBBB & VT diagnosed Feb 06
Guidant Biventricular Pacer ICD inserted Feb 06: Boston Scientific Incepta CRT-D inserted May, 2012
Oesophageal Cancer, 2012, Gall Bladder & Septicemia 2014 resulting in VFib and severe heart damage
Bare Metal Stent May, 2012 Mitral Valve replaced 2015
Meds: Entresto, Bicard, Coralan, Eurtorxsiq, Frusehexl, Spiractin, Sigmaxin, Creon, Warfarin,
Appropriate Shocks for Ventricular VFib.

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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by Jean » June 30th, 2009, 10:02 pm

Will be implanted two years in September, No shocks.......... Knock on wood.
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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by david1 » June 30th, 2009, 10:54 pm

Mark,

I agree with u, the way technology is advancing, I would't be surprised if they came out with a shockless ICD. Instead of shock, maybe they may come out with an ICD that would SHAKE the heart back into normal rythm.

God bless us all always

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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by gijss » July 1st, 2009, 3:43 am

Gary, no I am not surprised with the 1 on 12 to get a shock.
Much depends on the reason why you got the ICD.
Figures I heard (no, I am not a medical specialist) are that having a SCD with no diagnosed cause (like me) gives 90+% chance to re-occur within 5 years (= 90+% to get a shock), other risk-factors have other percentages, like ARVD I was told gives '50% chance for SCD/shock ever'. When an ICD is given because of a statistical chance of 5+% like damage after an heart-attack the chance is only 5+% ever. When you get the ICD because of low EF probably chance is low. Yes, I guess that the 1 on 12 could be true.

Having shock-experience, I think shocks more than just getting the ICD make you seek support from people having had that experience, who understand - like in this forum. So average will be much higher over here.
My name is Gijs but in English you can call me Gilbert as this might be easier te remember :-)

SCA Nov 13, 2004, shocked Sep 2 (2x) & 5 2005, Dec 31 2005, May 20 2006, Dec 29 2008, Oct 31 2009 and April 6 2010 (3x). 'Repaired' by epicardial ablation April 16th, 2010.
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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by Smalley » July 1st, 2009, 4:03 am

Only shocks 10/2007 on 3rd ICD, 1st for atrial tachycardia then 3 for fast ventrical response. None before or since.
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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by Thierry » July 1st, 2009, 4:47 am

Some statistics have to be taken with a rock of salt. I think I read that in the "ICD sports" registry 30% reported shocks....
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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by Ozchrissy » July 1st, 2009, 4:49 am

Gijss, yes I only came on here after I had my shock, so we may have a higher percentage of people on here who have had shocks. Then when you do come on here and meet all the wonderful people and get such support and advice, you feel like you belong, shock or no shock.
“I am not what happened to me, I am what I choose to become.” Carl Jung

Diagnosed with cardiomyopathy in 10/99
LBBB & VT diagnosed Feb 06
Guidant Biventricular Pacer ICD inserted Feb 06: Boston Scientific Incepta CRT-D inserted May, 2012
Oesophageal Cancer, 2012, Gall Bladder & Septicemia 2014 resulting in VFib and severe heart damage
Bare Metal Stent May, 2012 Mitral Valve replaced 2015
Meds: Entresto, Bicard, Coralan, Eurtorxsiq, Frusehexl, Spiractin, Sigmaxin, Creon, Warfarin,
Appropriate Shocks for Ventricular VFib.

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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by caro » July 3rd, 2009, 10:03 pm

I have had my ICD for one year now. During that time I have charged once but didn't fire because I am paced 100 percent of the time and it paced me out of the VT. Perhaps the statistics will be affected by how many leads each person has. Then their will be another catagory for diagnosis requiring the implantation....Hey this could turn into a lot of high math...Ha! ==Caro
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Re: An Interesting Statistic

Post by karslake » July 4th, 2009, 1:48 am

Well, had my first ICD implanted in September 1998 - had 26 appropriate shocks (including 2 storms of 6 shocks each.) On my third ICD now and no shocks since May 2004 (touch wood!)

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