SCA affecting memory functions

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SCA affecting memory functions

Post by Jeanneinca » December 12th, 2011, 8:36 pm

In February of this year I experienced two cardiac arrests. First time it was in a grocery store and went down and out--revived because my bottom, hip, shoulder and head hit the floor and jarred my heart out of the V fib. Then again in July (two weeks after the surgery to attach the 3rd wire to left ventricle) while hospitalized with a bowel obstruction I experienced 9 hours of repeated CA and shocks to revive me about 5 times. My ICD was set high for V- tac and they had to use the the front and back patches to shock my heart as my ICD was not firing. I don't remember but one shock, but I do remembering repeatedly trying to come back.

I now notice that my memory is definitely different-often can't think of the name of a person, or a word for something. I often have to go back to the store later because I think I have gotten everything on the list and find that I didn't get everything. Mostly function okay as long as someone occasionally fills in the blank. My psychic partner is able to do this for me.

There is also a difference in my balance--it is easier to get off balance when doing somethings.

What I am wondering is if these brain functions will ever improve or is this the "new me". Has anyone experienced the memory changes from SCA and then seen any improvement over a period of time?

I am grateful and amazed that I am still here.

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Post by JoeNH » December 12th, 2011, 8:59 pm

Jeanne,

After my FOUR SCAs, there is no doubt about it "I was on 'stupid pills' for a good long while. The gears were not meshing completely, nor were they meshing at the correct speed. Literally, my intellectual function was slower than usual, and was not as sharp as usual. Yes, specific words were not always on the tip of my tongue. They got to the tip of my tongue slower.

I also remember being asked when I was headed into the rehab hospital, "Can you walk at all ?" I answered, "Sure, if you'll give me that walker over there and have someone standing behind me and to the left." They asked, "Why do you need someone standing behind you ?" I answered, "That's the way I fall over."

I also had some directional difficulties; things like "which way to put the paper in the fax machine," "which way to fold the laundry," "which way to put the paper in the window envelope."

I had difficulties with some small motions, like buttoning my shirt, slicing mushrooms in the kitchen, feeding myself without stabbing my face with the fork.

ALL of these issues have been fixed and resolved.

I'd highly recommend you discuss this at length, honestly and frankly with your physician. There are physical therapists, occupational therapists, memory specialists, exercise therapists, exercise physiologists that are out there and can help.

The "gross" motor stuff improved the most immediately. Within weeks I was walking and feeding myself again. The intellectual stuff came back within a few months. I would say I was "as sharp" and "as quick" as I ever was, within six months. Some of the finer physical motions took more than 14 or 15 months to get back to normal.

When you have a SCA, as you know, you stop breathing. That means your brain becomes oxygen deprived pretty quickly .... in less than one minute. By the time you get to 90 seconds, you'll likely have noticeable brain damage. By the time you hit 5 minutes, you won't likely be coming back. The brain is VERY SENSITIVE to even the most modest injury.

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Post by Jim and Sparky » December 12th, 2011, 9:11 pm

I am also thankful for a second chance at life. My SCA's were in February and doctors and others were quite concerned with my brain for awhile. I seem to have recovered very well, but I am frustrated with some short term memory issues. For instance. I had trouble remembering what kind of Christmas tree we had last year. I sort of remembered that we had replaced a very old and tired artificial tree, but couldn't remember what we had replaced it with nor where it was stored. I too have trouble remembering names and get frustrated with that.
Then today I remembered a fairly obscure telephone number without looking it up. It was for a software company technical support line that I have used on occasion for about 15 years. The upshot is that my long term memory seems to be pretty good. It's the short term memory that frustrates me. It is not really a big problem, but frustrating and even a bit embarrassing at times. Also it seems that some days are better than others.
So whatever you do, don't feel like you are the only one. I have expressed my fears and frustrations to my wife, family and friends and they usually say I make a bigger deal out of it than it really is.
Then they sometimes tell me it is just because I am getting older, which is true, and they are mostly joking, but still sort of makes me mad.
But I do notice the little memory issues and get a little frustrated. I can't really tell if getting worse or better. I have mostly decided to put up with it and try not to worry about it.
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Jim
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Post by Ozchrissy » December 12th, 2011, 11:42 pm

I haven't suffered a SCA, but I have had cardiomyopathy for 12 years now. I don't know if it is the drugs or just the lack of blood going to my brain, but there are things that I find extremely hard to do. I can type well on a keyboard, but that actually to me is instinctive now, always been a touch typist so don't need to concentrate when I do it. However, when I have to write something down, I find I have a great deal of difficulty forming the words and my writing is often illegible. Even to me. But I can put a brush in my hand and find I can paint fine detail well.

I also have problems with names and details. I can be mid sentence and loose all thought of what I was talking about. An example of how my memory is working is a friend and I were discussing movies and I said I couldn't see why Alfred Hitchock's movie, you know the one about the pull cart, was so important. For the life of me I couldn't remember the name of the movie but was frustrated about it, I studied Hollywood Cinema at Uni and studied this move. 3 weeks later I rang her and left her a message with 'Citizen Kane'. My brain was obviously still processing from the earlier time, and I woke one morning with this in my brain. Weird, but it does happen a lot now. Luckily my family and friends understand and fill in the details, however I do get very embarrassed when with strangers and this happens.
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Post by TruckerRon » December 13th, 2011, 1:18 am

I had my SCA in September '09. For the first two days I was failing to take in new info, so every 5 - 10 minutes I was pestering my wife and the medical staff with the same questions about why was I there... Fortunately that ended when I woke on the morning of the third day... yet I had less than 3 minutes of memories that formed during those first 2 days after the SCA. The fascinating thing to learn was how much I had accomplished during those 2 days, like giving my wife the login names and passwords she needed to access our online accounts!

Since then, my memories seem to form normally with my remembering new things proceeding as they once did. OTOH, my ability to focus on tasks has dropped quite a bit, not to mention my endurance levels. I'm definitely struggling with depression, but the dark days are rarer now than during that first year as I learned about all the things that I could never do again (like drive a commercial vehicle!). Ah well...

You're certainly not alone with your memory problems. Some folks on this board have lost weeks!
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Post by Lianachan » December 13th, 2011, 3:18 am

I have about 36-48h of lost memory from my SCA in Jan of this year, I doubt it is going to come back now and don't particularly want it to. But I also found out recently that my short term memory wasn't working either, the first day in hospital. My sister visited me and apparently had to keep repeating stuff to me every few minutes as I wasn't storing it. She hid this fact from me until I prodded her the other day, probably thinking it best to not add to my worries. Now I'm even more scared of another SCA.

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Post by freckles1880 » December 13th, 2011, 8:44 am

When I finally "awoke" after my long sleep they were very concerned about memory loss. I went through a battery of quizzes and tests. In the first 2 weeks I bet I had at least 10 memory tests. I did pretty well. I do know that there is some short term loss. Whether it is due to age or heart I don't know. Some folks say I was a nut before the heart attack and things haven't really changed. Others just say I am a little more mellow now. wavhi
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Post by AlexK » December 14th, 2011, 9:10 pm

Right there with you bud.

When I went down with mine my memory took a pretty good hit, and it's taken awhile for it to come around. Here it is years later and I'm pretty sure my short-term memory is still not quite back up to its old self.

Realize we humans have this thing of remembering ourselves as better than we were ("I used to be faster") so this may impact one's self-perception.
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Post by Frank » December 15th, 2011, 5:53 pm

I would reply except I have forgotten the subject of this thread.

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Post by freckles1880 » December 15th, 2011, 6:15 pm

Frank wrote:I would reply except I have forgotten the subject of this thread.

Frank
Sorry. The mind is the 3rd thing to go. I just don't remember the first 2. wavhi
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